Mikrolinse Gaia16aye, Caustic Crossing overstået

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  • #151218

    nightsky
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      • Neutron star

      Den 5. aug. kom der en Science Alert fra Gaia, Gaia16aye.
      Ayers Rock,dens øgenavn, (19:40:01,13 +30:07:53,4 – J2000) er en stille stjerne som d. 5. aug.
      blusede voldsomt op (flare).

      Gaia Alerts: Gaia16aye
      http://gsaweb.ast.cam.ac.uk/alerts/alert/Gaia16aye/

      Den anden opblusning kom nogle dage senere
      http://scan.sai.msu.ru/~kirx/ATel/Gaia16aye/

      Spektroskopi peger på en normal K8-M2 stjerne

      D. 17. sep kom der en kraftig opblusning igen, mag 12. I båndet. ( Caustic crossing)
      http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=9507

      Meget tyder på det er en såkaldt mikrolinse effekt og derfor kan vi også forvente en fjerde
      opblusning når som helst. Altså nu…

      Alle opfordres til at lave observationer af denne stjerne, også med lille aperatur. En oplagt
      chance for os amatører til at bidrage med noget hard-core fantastisk videnskab.

      Amatører opfordres også til at lave spektroskopi på stjernen så man kan få mere at vide
      om kilden og linsen. Med en mag12-14 tror jeg det bliver meget svært. Min SA kunne sagtens
      gøre det, men desværre er feltet alt for fyldt til spalteløs spektroskopi.

      Bemærk at nøjagtig tidsangivelse på ens optagelser er vigtigt.

      Klart vejr nu, tak

      Fra Wiki
      Binary lenses

      If the lens is a binary star with separation of roughly the Einstein radius, the magnification
      pattern is more complex than in the single star lenses. In this case, there are typically
      three images when the lens is distant from the source, but there is a range of alignments
      where two additional images are created. These alignments are known as caustics. At
      these alignments, the magnification of the source is formally infinite under the point-source
      approximation.

      Caustic crossings in binary lenses can happen with a wider range of lens geometries than
      in a single lens. Like a single lens source caustic, it takes a finite time for the source to
      cross the caustic. If this caustic-crossing time t S {displaystyle t_{S}} t_{S} can be
      measured, and if the angular radius of the source is known, then again the Einstein angle
      can be determined.

      As in the single lens case when the source magnification is formally infinite, caustic crossing
      binary lenses will magnify different portions of the source star at different times. They can
      thus probe the structure of the source and its limb darkening.
      [TUBE]_0u7DVbw4o4[/TUBE]

      Nightsky2016-11-22 17:38:17

      #151226

      Mogens.Bildsøe
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        • Nova

        Hej Lars,
        ku være interessant at forsøge, men det kræver jo så at man kan se begivenheden
        på sit guide billede- og det kan jeg ikke med mit nuværende kamera. Har nu investeret
        i (og fået leveret) et Lodestar X2, som jeg bare ikke kan få til at funger på min
        gamle XP maskine. Har arbejdet på sagen siden i går, men har opgivet foreløbig.
        Men måske lidt data på Betelgeuse?


        Hilsen Mogens B.

        #151227

        nightsky
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          • Neutron star

          Denne er netop kommet

          AAVSO Alert Notice 552

          September 20, 2016

          Gaia16aye microlensing event monitoring urgently
          requested

          Dr. Kirill Sokolovsky (National Observatory of Athens and
          Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow State University), has requested AAVSO
          assistance in monitoring the ongoing microlensing event Gaia16aye beginning
          immediately to catch transient behavior occurring now and continuing through
          the end of October (or until further notice).

          Dr. Sokolovsky writes: “Gaia16aye was first
          identified as an unusual variable object by Gaia on 2016 August 5 (V. Bakis et
          al., ATel #9376, http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=9376)
          and it was later realized that its achromatic light variations are consistent
          with being caused by microlensing of a distant M-type giant star by a binary
          star system (possibly consisting of main sequence dwarfs) crossing the line of
          sight. The complex geometry of the lens causes multiple brightness peaks
          corresponding to caustic crossings. According to preliminary modeling, the
          object’s variability was noticed during decline after the first caustic
          crossing. The second brightness peak was observed on August 13 and the third
          peak on September 19. The source is expected to decline quickly in next days
          from its current magnitude V~14 to reach the plateau around V~16 between the
          caustics, in order to start rising again to cross the caustic in one or couple
          of weeks (L. Wyrzykowski et al., ATel #9507, http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=9507).

          A well-sampled lightcurve of the microlensing event,
          especially during the caustic crossing, is needed to constrain geometry and
          some physical parameters of the lens and the lensed star.

          “CCD observations of Gaia16aye using any subset of
          B, V, Rc, Ic, g, r, i filters are requested starting immediately and continuing
          for about four weeks (until the decline from the expected next caustic
          crossing). If the object is at its bright state around V~14, time series
          observations are needed. If the object is found at the plateau level around
          V~16, one-two observations per night are sufficient. Unfiltered CCD
          observations are also useful if photometric measurements are collected during
          multiple nights (otherwise it would be difficult to match the unfiltered
          measurements to the data collected by other observers).

          “Observers are asked to… [reduce their data in
          their usual way using] UCAC4 601-089811 as the comparison star and submit
          observations to the AAVSO International Database using the standard
          procedure.” UCAC4 601-089811 is the 145 comparison star in the AAVSO
          sequence for Gaia16aye.

          Observers are also requested to upload their calibrated
          (dark and flat-field corrected) images to the anonymous FTP server ftp://scan.sai.msu.ru/uploads/ for
          semi-automated processing with the Cambridge Photometry Calibration Server
          pipeline.”

          Coordinates (2000.0): R.A. 19 40 01.13 Dec. +30 07 53.4

          Charts with a comparison star sequence for Gaia16aye may
          be created using the AAVSO Variable Star Plotter (VSP, https://www.aavso.org/vsp).

          Creating an ‘e’ or ‘f’ scale chart is recommended.

          Please submit observations to the AAVSO International
          Database using the name Gaia16aye (there are no spaces within the name).

          This campaign is being followed on the AAVSO Observing
          Campaigns webpage (https://www.aavso.org/observing-campaigns).
          A thread has been created on the Campaigns and Observation Reports forum at (https://www.aavso.org/content/gaia16aye-microlensing-campaign).

          #151232

          Lars Malmgren
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            • Super Nova

            Spændende!!

            #151234

            Frank Larsen
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              • Super Nova

              Argh, nede på udstyr og regnbyer

              #151235

              Lars Malmgren
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                • Super Nova

                Nightsky wrote: the ongoing microlensing event Gaia16aye beginning
                immediately to catch transient behavior occurring now and continuing through
                the end of October (or until further notice).

                Der er tid Tongue

                #151257

                nightsky
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                  • Neutron star

                  Juhu, så er jeg i gang med at tage en mindre tidsserie i V.

                  Håber der bliver mere klart vejr…

                  #151260

                  Lars Malmgren
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                    • Super Nova

                    Hvad ligger dens mag. på lige nu?

                    Lars Malmgren2016-09-22 00:24:30

                    #151261

                    nightsky
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                      • Neutron star

                      Super spændende resultater

                      Jeg finder at Gaia16aye er på lyst stadie lige nu, noget over plateau niveauet. Altså skal der
                      laves tidsserie optagelser, da der er en ”Caustic crossing” på vej.

                      Ved en v-mag 14,18 ser vi altså selve mikrolinse effekten på min optagelse. Så fik jeg også
                      en mikrolinse begivenhed krydset af på min ønskeliste.Smile Skønt..

                      Er mega spændt på hvordan data sidenhen kommer til at passe ind i billedet.

                      T (JD) Gaia16aye Ref Chk star
                      2457653,379 14,18 14,479 14,043

                      I morgen skal der kalibreres mod UCAC4 601-089811

                      Nightsky2016-09-22 23:34:30

                      #151313

                      nightsky
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                        • Neutron star

                        Hejsa

                        Tidligt på aftenen d. 22. sep. fik jeg en kort session med en lille TOA. Ikke det bedste til så
                        fyldt et felt og det kneb med at få et ordenligt SNR.

                        Lyset fra Gaia16aye observeres stadig kraftigere end normalt, fordi objekter (her binært par)
                        kredser foran stjernen og dermed laver en mikrolinse effekt der forstærker lyset i bl.a.
                        V med ca. 2 mag.

                        D.v.s. at Gaia16aye er i “bright state” og vi afventer den fjerde “caustic crossing”

                        Gaia16aye målinger

                        2016-09-22T19:34:33 UT V 14,275
                        2016-09-22T19:45:40 UT Ic 12,547

                        Nightsky2016-09-22 23:48:37

                        #151334

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                          • Neutron star

                          Et telegram bekræfter mine observationer fra i går.

                          http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=9533

                          Mere spændende her, brug evt. google translate
                          http://www.meteoweb.eu/2016/09/astronomia-brillante-evento-di-microlensing-nel-mirino-di-gaia/750917/

                          #151384

                          jens.jacobsen
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                            • Neutron star

                            En hurtig reduktion af en optagelse giver en lysstyrke på -0.145 i forhold til UCAC4 stjernen, nr 145 på fotometrilisten. Mag ligger altså stadig på V= 14.33

                            mvh
                            Jens

                            #151412

                            nightsky
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                              • Neutron star

                              Fint i tråd med målingerne Jens som viser den falder måske 0,1 i magnitude om dagen.

                              The expected behaviour of such lensing system is that the source will
                              decline quickly in next
                              days to reach the plateau between two caustics,
                              in order to start rising again to cross the
                              caustic again in one or
                              couple of weeks. The source will again reach about I=12 mag for about
                              a
                              day and then will sharply decline and the event will be over forever.

                              Man har som amatør her en chance for at være med helt i front med uhyre simpelt udstyr.
                              Korrekt kalibrering af sine billedere og styr på tiden. Det er det hele.

                              En google søgning viser:

                              Et par events før som nok var binær mikrolinsning
                              EROS BLG-2000-5
                              MACHO 99-BLG-47

                              Så er der OGLE-2009-BLG-020 var den første som kunne følges op med observationer fra
                              jorden og dermed den første som kunne verificeres med doppler observationer.

                              OGLE-2009-BLG-020 er et ∼1,1M⊙ binært system som passerede synslinjen mellem jorden
                              og en rød gigant stjerne.

                              #151452

                              nightsky
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                                • Neutron star

                                V og Ic målinger her til aften, stadig i bright state.

                                2016-09-24 19:30:17 UT V 14,443
                                2016-09-24 19:43:43 UT Ic 12,685

                                Dagens Gaia16aye foto

                                #151511

                                nightsky
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                                  • Neutron star

                                  Er voldsomt generet af drivende skyer.

                                  Finder Gaia16aye på ca. 14,5 v mag. her kl. 23.00

                                  Så stadig ikke nogen opblusning, medmindre det er sket siden i går aftes.Nightsky2016-09-25 23:28:44

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